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PostSubject: Offensive words!   Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:00 pm

Faggot or Knacker?

To me they are the most offensive words ya could call me, but is it better to be labeled a knacker by a Setteled person (buffer) or a Faggot by one of our own (pavee)??

i think for me id be more offended that a buffer would call me a knacker because id tend to put a traveller calling me a faggot down to lack of insight!
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:41 pm

i dont get offended by names to be honest. Ive had some acquaintes say to me, oh i hear u r a pikey


and i just smile, and say yeh thats rite

i think maybe its because my family is very contradicrty, in that, some of me familiys have been v successful money wise n business wise, and ppl expect pikeys to have nothin or to be nothin than scavengers. so when someone calls me a pikey , i usually smile in me self, because the person sayin it is ignorant and no nothin about me, thats it. Someone call me a faggot, well it aint happened yet, and it wud mean nothin to me as an supposed insult
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:41 pm

i dont get offended by names to be honest. Ive had some acquaintes say to me, oh i hear u r a pikey


and i just smile, and say yeh thats rite

i think maybe its because my family is very contradicrty, in that, some of me familiys have been v successful money wise n business wise, and ppl expect pikeys to have nothin or to be nothin than scavengers. so when someone calls me a pikey , i usually smile in me self, because the person sayin it is ignorant and no nothin about me, thats it. Someone call me a faggot, well it aint happened yet, and it wud mean nothin to me as an supposed insult
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:19 am

Have ta admit words get to me, not knacker etc as for my family thats not historicly correct. But faggot really stings me. Guess itjust reflects somethin I havnt overcome yet. Someday!
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:02 am

Pavees do a lott of talkin, names an shouts. Mostly defensiv shite so i put it down to lack of insightt too. Even if its sad that we dont support1another better. Im more ofended by a settled person callin names tho as they don have to put up with what we do an should no better. Not an excuse for either tho
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:25 pm

all trvallers have a big gob, and r very vocal tends to be , its defensive as u suggest, and that aint no suprise seeing wot we have to put up with. If ur main experience is of ppl u dont know giving u hassle if they approcah ya, well, u r gonna be defensive naturally.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:59 pm

So true! Tho the word handicap irks me most Iv a few cuzs with specal needs an comments like that REALLY get to me
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:02 pm

Pikey?

Gyppo?

Trailer Trash?
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:06 pm

Pikey... not a bit. Its a bit of a currupted word about a horse. I love horses and iv im going to b associatd with such beautiful animals no harm :0

Gyppo doesnt effect me as its a really ignorant association. Im not a gysy.

Trailer trash... na i expect som pple watch too much american tv lol
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:39 pm

i toldub4im a mix of gypsy, i dont suppose u r having a go at gypsys r ya, and yer point 3, ur not having a go at me r ya?? u sayin i watch american tv all day lol

This is supposed to be a support aint it??
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:49 pm

Woawh!r u serious? Of course this is a support group. I wasnt talkin abut u but about how i see the words.
Calin me a gypsy dosnt effct me at all as im not (evn tho the word, like the african americn term niggr is v wrong just calin me it dont directly offend me ya no?)
I thought traler trash was an american term as iv only ever herd it on tv. No offense ment. If i have feel free to message me
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:02 pm

im in england london

if a non traveller calls someone a pikey, thats very very offensive here

but travellers here call ecah other pikeys and its a laff and thats acepted

In england, a non traveller calling u a gypo is deemed offensive big time, total insult

as for trailer trash, a non traveller callin a travellin here in england trailer trash wont last 1 minute

a number plate for a vehicle recently got banned for being P1 KEY true story

i guess me summary is that it depends on where ya live that makes saomething offensive? dont know 100 per cent
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:26 pm

Great topic! Im sur lots have a part to play. Who u are. Wher ur from. Family. The way ya look at life etc
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:03 pm

I think other peoples ignorence and words of hate effect us all on some level. We can choose to let it wound us or fuel a fire of a deeper understanding.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive words!   Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:18 pm

think being calld names by one of my own cuts deepr. kinda expectin it from people who dnt understand me but when its my own. feckin hurts
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