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gayandafraid
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PostSubject: what makes a traveller   Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:44 am

Why is it that travellers who dont travel now still called travellers? Is it just family or not wanting to move on? I asked someone that before and they kept saying its in my blood its my heritage. But i dont really carry on anything now. Ok ok my brothers do and my sister does but not me. If i dont is it still mine? I just want to be where i can be wanted. Being traveller means im not usualy wanted by the settled and being gay means theres some people who dont mind but most travellers just call ya queer or a freak.
Where do i belong?
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PostSubject: Re: what makes a traveller   Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:27 pm

You belong EXACTLY where you are! Labels, culture and identity are like smoke. Ya can see it but cant ever really catch it for a close look with all the changes it goes through. Its complicated with opinions and reasons to define... But right now do ya have to? Id focus more on being a good person, getting happy and making a good life. I think if ya work on those the rest will start to click together for ya!
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PostSubject: Re: what makes a traveller   Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:47 am

I think Rob is right, you “belong” exactly where you are.

And wow what a intense question on being a traveller....

I feel it is our sense of culture and way of life that names us above all other things, especially previous, present and transitional nomadism which is an important factor in the labels of self and communal identity.

It distinguishes us Travellers from the sedentary (settled) population. While Travellers do not constitute a distinct/separate group from the population as a whole in terms of religion, language or genetic lineage (although this one is debatable), we are however, an indigenous minority who have been part of Irish society for uncounted centuries.

As Travellers we share:

  • Fundamental cultural values and communally regulated morals;

  • Our identity is largely biologically self perpetuating;

  • We maintain and socially monitor a highly selective field of communication and interaction;

  • Have customs and traditions unique onto ourselves;

  • Have a language (which much like Gaelic usually remains unspoken);

  • Have a “membership” which identifies itself, and is identified by others as being separate from the common flow.


But like most human ideals we are always changing, not always subjective to the individual above the community and is a thing that sometimes is deeply meaningful while at others just an empty label to make us feel we belong.

Our sense of identity is important but so is who we truly are – id focus more on getting towards a happy life then who I may or not be – you'll get there Smile

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PostSubject: Re: what makes a traveller   Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:44 pm

Thanks guys
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PostSubject: Re: what makes a traveller   Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:55 pm

Paddy you put it excellently!
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PostSubject: Re: what makes a traveller   Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:33 pm

paddy i tend to agree
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PostSubject: Re: what makes a traveller   Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:21 pm

So do I
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